Friday, May 12, 2023

CAVE NOTES - To The Very Limits Of Suffering








'God is the trauma itself'

You're going to have to explain that one. What do you mean by 'God is the trauma itself'?:

That grief can be seen as a kind of exalted state where the person who is grieving is the closest they will ever be to the fundamental essence of things. Because, in grief, you become deeply acquainted with the idea of human mortality. You go to a very dark place and experience the extremities of your own pain - you are taken to the very limits of suffering.as far as I can see, there is a transformative aspect to this place of suffering. We are essentially altered or remade by it.

Now this process is terrifying, but in time you return to the world with some kind of knowledge that has something to do with our vulnerability as participants in this human drama.Everything is so fragile and precious and heightened, and the world and the people in it seem so endangered, and yet so beautiful.

To me it feels that, in this dark place, the idea of a God feels more present or maybe more essential. It actually feels like grief and God are somehow intertwined. It feels that, in grief, you draw closer to the veil that separates this world from the next. I allow myself to believe such things, because it is good for me to do so.'


Taken from Faith, Hope and Carnage
a series of conversations between Nick Cave & Sean O'Hagan
Published by Canongate 2022 

 

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